A new hour long conversation between Japanese artist Hikaru Utada and world-renowned historian & author Yuval Noah Harari contemplates the future of creativity in the age of AI. The very deep discussion was coordinated and shared by Japanese media outlet NewsPicks and offers some intriguing insight on a very hot button topic, especially when it comes to applications surrounding art and expression.

There's always a great deal to learn when two highly intellectual people sit down and have a conversation. Utada as a creative icon, and Harari as the author of books like Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind or Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow. It's an honest talk between two brilliant minds around something that drives a lot of philosophical discussion.

Fans of Japanese music will also no doubt be familiar with Utada's body of work, and in this conversation they discuss their songwriting process and motivation as a creative in addition to the core topic. It's an incredibly insightful direct look behind their work, and worth a listen if you're a music fan regardless of you're feelings on the AI conversation. Highly recommended.